Atrapado, your story is riveting. As a female with no male family members in, I really didn't know much about how a man becomes an MS. I can't believe all that stuff (hand shaking, 15 minutes early, etc) was required of you. I can't wait to read more. Plus, it's interesting to get to look inside another culture. Honestly, at first I didn't know if I could read it all in one setting because of its length and my inability to focus for long periods of time, but I can say truthfully that I never stopped reading it once until I finished. I am very excited for part 2!
Left in the Cold
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atrapado's story parte 1
by atrapado inso it was only my mother, two of my sisters and i that had to move.
you cant really play soccer by yourself.. i turn to the jws for friends but there were no kids my age and kids a few years older than me started to hate me.
i liked the elder saw him as my dad i didnt want to say no.
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I went a little NUTS!
by irondork indid you go a little nuts as you were waking up and making your exit?
i had a few of the symptoms listed in hassan's, combatting cult mind control.
i couldn't pull my thoughts together.
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Left in the Cold
I think I really need to read Combating Cut Mind Control. I've been having trouble falling asleep because my mind races. When I do get to sleep, it's a light sleep. I'm only at the beginning of this journey and I'm scared. Does anyone know where I can get a digital copy of this book. I'm not asking for it at no cost. I just need it in digital form. iBooks & Amazon don't have it. Any ideas?
Did any of you have extreme difficulty sleeping? Sorry. I'm not trying to hijack irondork's thread. You can pm me if that's better.
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Any Elders comments on latest idea about Sisters
by truthlover injust finished our 2 day and one of the talks by the do indicated that single sisters in the congregation are to be subservient to all male brothers in the hall..as well a widow too is of the same "status".
is this a new thought or just now an open secret?.
personally, i dont think that is good - after all there are many elders who although, supposedly appointed by hs, can be personally involved with porn behind closed doors or nasty with his wife and family.. i personally know of two like that .... why should i listen to a "stranger" about my life?
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Left in the Cold
Suddenly, it all makes sense! No wonder I've been married (and divorced) twice.
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Ever just want to run away.
by LouBelle injust give up the job, the house and go somewhere where life moves at a slower pace and there are not as many electronic intrusions?
only thing to get to a place like that costs money.. if i had my way, give all of this up for a quiet life on a little small holding that can look after my needs..
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I have dreamed of it. I still do.
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My JC coming up tomorrow for causing division Rom 16:17,18 - wish me well!
by Healthworker inhi, brothers and friends!.
would make me happy if you say a prayer or wish me good luck!.
been an exciting day, training with you guys before the rumble in the jungle tomorrow!.
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Left in the Cold
If you get df'd just appeal it. Then you'll have a new star chamber to talk to. :) I do wish you well.
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I grew up not fearing old age
by Sour Grapes inas a teenage jw, i grew up believing that i was not going to finish high school nor would i get old and have to die like my grandparents did.
well, i did finish high school, as did my children and my grandchildren and old age has not been kind to me.
i don't like to look at pictures from 40 years ago, from a time when i was healthy and i had the goal of "stay alive till 75.
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Left in the Cold
"Never regret growing old. It is a privilege denied to many." -unsure
That being said, I'm in my 30's so I'll shut up now. :)
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Ok. I'm confused and slightly stunned.
by Left in the Cold inon pages 54 & 55 of the "what has religion done for mankind" book the following quotes can be found.
considering adams decision to eat the fruit with eve it is written, "the woman was not to consult her husband first on the matter of eating, although god had made him first and had used him to construct the woman concerning the forbidden tree.
no, but she was to exercise woman's rights and show him she had better judgement.".
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On pages 54 & 55 of the "What has Religion Done for Mankind" book the following quotes can be found. Considering Adams decision to eat the fruit with Eve it is written, "The woman was not to consult her husband first on the matter of eating, although God had made him first and had used him to construct the woman concerning the forbidden tree. No, but she was to exercise woman's rights and show him she had better judgement."
"It was just as in many lands today where the religious clergy dominate politics and commerce. The men who see the double-talk and double-dealing of the clergy have no use for these religious hypocrites. BUT because their womenfolk hold to the religious system, the men make no disturbance about it just in order to keep their women and get along with them."
btw, religious leaders know the above statement is true and craftily use the women.
No scriptures at all to back this up. I know I'm naïve about this stuff right now, but WTF? It sounds as if women are responsible for the entire downfall of mankind and giving false religion it's audience, as well. Who wrote this? Is this really how women were seen? Why would a woman sit through a study of this book after reading that? If I had been there you can bet I would've used my "woman's rights". I'm just amazes to read that! Wow! Women seem to be valueless to the WT. at least in 1951 they were. Cavemen!
(My bold option was doing wierd things. Sorry.)
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i have started my da letter !
by unstopableravens ini have wrote six pages so far it seems the more i write the more i have to say .i have many mixed thoughts its frustrating to have to go this.
i wish i could just fade but that is not possable.
how long were your letters?.
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Left in the Cold
I think writing out what you'd like to say could be very therapeutic, but I have learned and been told, when it comes to submitting a letter to anyone, it's usually best to keep it short and to the point. And I agree, they don't deserve six pages of your writing.
Good luck!
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What About Adam & Eve?
by Cold Steel inwhat are the teachings of the jehovah's witnesses in regard to adam and eve?
i know that they believe the fall was a horrible, horrible mistake and that man was never intended to fall (despite god's foreknowledge).
does the atonement of christ cover their sins or are they to be destroyed after their resurrection?
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"Eve was framed".-bumbler sticker I saw once.
I always believed that anyone who had already been 'judged' by Jehovah wasn't going to come back. But, then again, I never thought to look and see if the bible really says that. I just thought it was right. (I can't believe half the stuff I never questioned.)
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So utterly hurt.
by LouBelle intoday something happened that hurt me more than the jwks, more than the shunning, more than my sexual molestation, more than my hellish years at caxton and more than the year i've just had.. the moment i was told this, i felt like my insides had been ripped, torn, shredded and my heart squeezed of it's very life.
i put my head in my hands and for the first time in my life let out a primal gut wrenching wail.. my father had asked my gran why she has been treating me the way she has (which hasn't been very nice).
he though it strange considering how in the past i have helped her and given her so much.
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Left in the Cold
I'm very sorry, LouBelle, that you were hurt.